BABY WE WERE BORN TO RUN: THE ANTI-RACIST ACTION REPORTBACK

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Northeast Weekend 4 Antifa WIN... Nazi David Irving PWND!

From One Peoples Project
As we are writing this, we are dealing with the fact that David Irving just got his ass handed to him again, this time in New York City at the DoubleTree Hotel in Times Square. At approx. 5:00PM, 25 NYC Antifascist activist entered the hotel and disrupted the Holocaust denier and Hitler apologist’s attempt to have a Nazi gathering in NYC. A prominent Neo-Nazi attorney named Alex Carmichael, whom we have dealt with before and saw at last night’s shindig in New Jersey, was maced in the face. Hotel personnel was duped into hosting the event by Irving’s organizers who kept the location under wraps until the last minute. As of this writing, Irving’s event is now over and he moves on to New Haven, CT. Meanwhile Anti-Racist Action has posted this one regarding Irving’s little outing at the Best Western Hotel in Pompton Plains, NJ. We did good this weekend, and we are sure Irving can’t wait to get the hell out of here, but that’s not to say the other stops on his tour don’t have anything planned for him. Here’s hoping those other towns have as much fun as we did!

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25 responses to “BABY WE WERE BORN TO RUN: THE ANTI-RACIST ACTION REPORTBACK

  1. Staropramen

    How do you figure NYC was a victory, faggots? Me and two other men kept 25 of you assholes from entering the room. Those doors had no locks and were 1 inch thick! The meeting continued until the end WHEN WE DECIDED IT WAS OVER,NOT YOU! Produce ONE picture of yourselves inside that room you faggots. You can’t because 25 faggots were no match for three of us. Nice try faggots.

    • FAG (or fabulously Awesome Gay)

      Are you getting paid each time you say faggots? Or are you a closeted homosexual and trying to cover it up by being a macho loser?

      It’s ok to be gay! I mean look at John DeNugent, he was a flamingly homosexual nazi. Sure he caught some flack for it but if you all join together as gay nazis who knows maybe you might enjoy your ass kickings more when you aren’t hiding from the truth. Me and two other men and assholes in the same sentence sounds like it was a fun time. Lets just hope you wore condoms lest you spread your filthy diseases!

    • Anonymous

      Only someone as deluded as a nazi could think that a massive tactical failure like the one that happened on Saturday was a success. If you were in the DAK, Rommel would have you shot for incompetence. Let’s review:

      -You were forced out of your original location
      -Your guest’s new secret location was leaked
      -Four times as many opposition forces went to this location
      -Opposition forces got inside your hotel
      -Opposition forces caused enough panic that you had to spend the evening barricading the doors to a room with no escape routes
      -Opposition forces terrified your guest
      -You allowed opposition forces to spray one of your people in the face with pepper spray.

      For assisting ‘the enemy’ like this, you’d get the Order of Lenin.

  2. FreeThought

    Let me ask you antifa people this: Why are you harassing an older gentleman (Irving) simply because he holds different beliefs than you? Isn’t that kind of pathetic? Are you afraid of something he has to say?

    It baffles me how you sophomoric goofs, think that ganging up on law-abiding, peaceably gathered citizens, is somehow noble. One shudders to think what the world would be like if you had any real power. People everywhere would be placed in camps for thinking differently than you. You would line up folks who held the wrong opinion, and shoot them in the head. All who dared to think outside of your approved thoughts and ideas would be systematically exterminated. And you think that you’re the rational ones? lol

    Two groups: One, having a peaceful private gathering to discuss topics of an intellectual nature. The other, covers their faces like cowards, barges in on a peaceful, private gathering, damages hotel property, screams all sorts of hate speech, assaults innocent people with pepper spray, and carries on like hysterical, maniacal raving lunatics in an act of pure bigoted, hate motivated domestic terrorism.

    Hmmm … let me think. Who is the average American going to identify with and support? The peaceful group who cherishes freedom, free speech and intellectualism? Or the group who has no sense of rationality or civilized discourse, but engages in violent intimidation and blatant domestic terrorism under the pretense of “protest.” ?

    Easy decision. Every time you act, more good average folks awaken to the truth of not only Irving and his work, but white advocacy and even white nationalism abroad. Thanks.

    • Anonymous

      Because his beliefs hinge around legitimating the mass slaughter of people he finds subhuman.

      And before you start making bold pronouncements about how the American people ‘want’ intellectualism and civil discourse, your crew elected Bush twice and you’re actively recruiting among the teabagger crowd.

      • FreeThought

        It’s not about legitimating the “mass slaughter.” It’s about understanding the truth that the “mass slaughter” and other details of the holocaust didn’t occur quite the way the war propaganda claims.

        But still, that doesn’t answer the fundamental question of … Even if that was his belief, why do you and other antifa folks believe it is your right and privilege to harass and attack a man simply for his beliefs? Please explain.

        Why do you hate freedom so much, that acts of domestic terrorism are used to try to silence a man merely exercising his right to free speech and expression to promote his ideas? Please explain.

        How can you justify terroristic acts against a peaceful private gathering, and assaulting innocent people, all due to mere ideological differences? Please explain.

        You do realize that it’s insane fanaticism? What’s next from you folks – suicide bombing? Same mentality. Same irrational fanaticism and hate of others because they’re different than you.

        It’s pure bigotry and hate, to do what was done to the Irving meeting. There was no noble cause. There was no honorable goal. Just pure unadulterated hate for others who think differently.

        Oh, and in regard to your completely irrelevant non sequitur … I never supported Bush or any Neo-con. I don’t see anything wrong with the Tea Party crowd. Fundamental constitutionalism and traditional Americanism is fine with me.

        But don’t get mad at me for average folks waking up to the truths I mentioned. You guys are doing far more to advance them, than I possibly could. It’s kind of nice to know that some of the burden is off of my shoulders, having you guys help and all.

        • ladylibertyslamp

          FreeThought- no, it’s not based in truth about slaughter, it’s about belittling a horrific and shameful element of human suffering in our world history.

          You have a right to your opine, but there are elements of what happened in those camps to the mass millions of human beings who were slaughtered based in race and political ideology and we will not allow their deaths and torture be erased in for the vanity of some conman who wants to sell his books.

          • FreeThought

            1) What gives you the right to determine what he, or anyone else for that matter, believes or promotes about those events? Why not refute his works through debate or by writing books critical of his works? Why resort to violence against innocent people and peaceful gatherings, just because they believe differently? Do you really believe that Irving has the power to erase historical events?

            2) It IS about truth of the events. While I don’t condone belittling deaths of innocent people, I certainly do not agree with accepting falsehoods, and exaggerated tales in order to promote the deaths of one group of people (jews), as being more precious or valuable than the immensely greater number of deaths of other groups of people (60 million ethnic Russians). Irving’s works reveal the many falsehoods of the holocaust, and lead to a true understanding of what happened. When the inaccuracies of the event are exposed, and the war propaganda filtered out, only then can we have a true appreciation for the event, and see it in its proper perspective. It doesn’t belittle the event, but rather gives it credibility, whereas the fanciful and absurd stories of the holocaust only serve to cement its status as a fairy tale.

            If antifa groups would prefer to believe the grandiose big screen fairy tale version, that is their choice. But it does not give anyone the right to say Irving cannot express and promote his views. It does not give anyone the right to use violence and domestic terrorism against those they simply disagree with. That is fanatical tyranny, and the people of this nation won’t tolerate it much longer. The antifa actions are a sad regression of societal standards, and really elicit almost a form of condescending pity along with righteous indignation for the backward thinking, bigoted and hate-filled behavior they engage in.

            There simply is not, and never will be, any rational or reasonable justification for attacking peaceful, innocent people with violence and domestic terrorism for simply having different beliefs. Period.

            • ladylibertyslamp

              Resistance has every right. It’s part of the other side of the coin which is a quintessential aspect of all political ideology in debate.

              You want the freedom to express political ideology that takes freedom away from others, and sets humanity back to a time of white domination and oppression of all races not white.

              You have right to express it, and we have right to resist it.

              You can stamp your feet all you want and claim the WW2 mass genocide didn’t happen, even try to claim it as academic, but, it’s a charlatan movement based in the hatred of Jews and to glitter up Hitler and his Third Reich quest as a happy utopia for whites.
              Also, a venue for snake oil salesmen like Irving to sell books.

              Making loud noises in a hotel is not domestic terrorism.

              Shooting into a museum full of school kids is domestic terrorism.

              Take a look at the score cards of historic based violence, the violence from your side is epic.

              You’re not a victim, you’re just not society’s big cheese in charge anymore.

              • FreeThought

                I’ll reply to both you and the Ghost together. You both stated to the effect, that Irving’s beliefs will take away or undermine your freedom. Please do explain just how him holding those views and writing and selling books about them, takes away your freedom?

                Last I heard, Irving wasn’t lobbying Congress to pass anti-jew laws (which AIPAC would never allow anyway). Are you being forced, against your will to buy his books? Have you lost the freedom to believe the official holocaust story? Are you required by law, to attend Irving’s meetings? And forced to believe his conclusions?

                The only ones trying to steal the freedom from another person, is you folks trying to crush the freedom of Irving and those that think like him. Equality be damned, freedom is only for those for whom you have pre-approved their beliefs, right? Would you prefer that we have a Bureau of Thought Approval? Maybe a Dept of Acceptable Ideology?

                The idea of resistance is being horribly misused. Resistance to a greater power, that directly threatens you or your way of life is legitimate. But to claim “resistance” is what you are doing is not only asinine, but quite comical. You’re claiming “resistance” as a justification for violence against a fringe group that doesn’t even comprise 1% of the population? That’s not resistance … that’s tyrannical oppression. That’s bullying the innocent – persecuting a minority. Irving and his ilk pose absolutely no threat to you, your freedom, or your way of life. They simply believe something different, of which you are violently intolerant.

                Resistance implies fighting back a force of direct threat. That’s not what you do. There is no force of direct threat pressing toward you to which resistance is required. No one is coming to you folks and telling you that you have to believe in revisionism or else. Not even close. Revisionists just want the equal right to gather and discuss and promote ideas peacefully. The only threatening force that by necessity should require resistance, is your antifa force which directly threatens the lives and freedoms of those who think differently than you. You are the only active and antagonistic force threatening freedom in this issue, and thus you are not in any way, shape or form a legitimate resistance.

                And you know very well, it wasn’t just loud noises. There was damage to hotel property, as well as criminal assault via pepper spray – not to mention the hate speech spewed out. Any forceful or violent act by an organized group, with the intent to intimidate or terrorize, is domestic terrorism.

                If your group doesn’t “have time” (petty excuse) to debate him, write books, or in some other manner to intelligently debunk Irving’s claims, then your priorities (and ambitions and initiative) are sorely misguided. Violence before rational and reasoned discussion and debate? Really? That’s very backward thinking. I mean, I could throw a grenade at the children who are accidentally trampling part of my garden, but I think a rational discussion would be better. And if others have written works to counter Irving’s, then why not try to raise awareness of those works to counter his, rather than terrorizing innocent people?

                I never claimed I was a victim. But the folks who were peacefully gathered at Irving’s meeting to discuss issues important to them, who were interrupted by a group of violent antifa intent on assaulting and terrorizing them … they were victims. They were victims of irrational hate and bigotry, manifested in criminal terroristic behavior and intimidation. It reminds me of the Inquisition, where dissenters and those who believed differently were hunted down and burned alive. Is that really how far backward you folks want to go?

                • ladylibertyslamp

                  No, Irving doesn’t directly work on The Hill, but he he does affiliate with those who do.
                  We know about his ties with Marcus Epstein, Pat Buchanan and others from the old “Sala Thai” club in the DC area.

                  Jason, what do you don’t understand is that there are many levels of how our resistance operates, just as there are more levels to who and what is behind the Nazi jokers you are messing around with.

                  Things are more complicated than they might appear.

                  • FreeThought

                    Okay, I know I said I wouldn’t reply any more, but …

                    If there are more levels to how you operate, then why resort to petty violence and intimidation? Why not present to the public a superior intellectual front? I keep throwing this out there, but all I’m hearing is attempts to justify violence.

                    Trust me, I don’t mess around with Nazis. I’ve read about the connections to IBM and the Bush family. In my book, extremism is bad regardless of what side it comes from.

                    But what I have a hard time wrapping my head around, is the idea that committing or condoning terroristic violence is somehow justifiable. It’s not justifiable when they do it, so why would it be justifiable when you antifa do it? Do you see the logical flaw?

                    Who knows. Perhaps you’re right, and I don’t realize how complicated things really are. But I will always hold to the fact that violence is a last resort. It’s never okay to attack people over ideological differences. If you’re directly threatened, then yes, resistance makes sense … but not screaming and raving and becoming violent at a peaceful gathering. That’s counterintuitive.

                    (P.S. – ladylibertyslamp, please contact me via email. I have a question)

                • The Ghost

                  Don’t play this game chump. Past is prolouge. We have seen this in this country play itself out. It is our history. You had a long post there, and it said absolutely nothing. If you have to tap dance this much, maybe your ideals are not worth the time.

            • The Ghost

              “What gives you the right to determine what he, or anyone else for that matter, believes or promotes about those events?”

              Those beliefs and events work to undermine my freedoms, as they have in the past, so I have every right.

              “Why not refute his works through debate or by writing books critical of his works?”

              We didn’t have time for that, but people have.

              “Why resort to violence against innocent people and peaceful gatherings, just because they believe differently?”

              Because they have, or would if they had the chance. You might want to tell Mr. Allen “Prepare to meet your maker” Rouse to check that crap, by the way. It’s obvious folks would take him up on his offer. And he lives in Brooklyn too? Hoo boy!

              “Do you really believe that Irving has the power to erase historical events?”

              No, but apparently he does.

          • Veritatis

            David Irving is a con man who only wants to sell his books.? There is a real problem with that idea. The fact is that David Irving has sold a lot of his books already, and he was highly respected in academia, up until he suggested that the version of the Holocaust we have been getting may not be completely accurate. Since then he has had death threats, been attacked by masked thugs, imprisoned and smeared in the media. Hardly a way to sell more books.

            Had this undeniably brilliant man been a true con man, he could have written a books that claimed the Holocaust was far worse. He could have invented new medical experiments that Dr. Mengele had performed, on twins, add a little sexual degeneracy and he surely would have had a best seller. He would have been on Oprah rather than in an Austrian jail.

            If you start looking at some of the Holocaust books that have been critically acclaimed in a truly critical manor you begin to realize how absurd they really are. Take Eli Wiesel’s book night. He tells us that he had an injured foot and was put in a hospital in the death camp Auschwitz. A hospital in a death camp? A hospital in a death camp during a war when German resources were stretched to their limit? Now that has to strike you as a little strange. Yet millions of impressionable high school students are forced to buy and read that book every year. If you ask me there is the real con.

            The real problem with Irving minimizing the Holocaust, is that the Holocaust® is just so lucrative for certain parties. You should read “The Holocaust Industry” by Norman Finkelstein. The Holocaust also provides cover for certain Jewish supremacists who would like to ethnically cleanse Palestine. Surely you must have noticed that a spate of Holocaust movies always follows some atrocity committed by the Israelis.

            You and your friends who wear masks and act like thugs are just tools of the people who would like to profit from, and hide behind the Holocaust® .

            • ladylibertyslamp

              I am beginning to think you WN’s like hanging out with us Anti’s more than you do on Stormfront.

              Okay, I’ll bite…

              The Holocaust Denial movement is a facade to promote the Third Positionist movement, if you don’t know what that is you can use the search engine of your choice and get the details.

              This basin of Academia you believe he and others like him are a part of, does not exist among the credible.
              Irving is a joke, a snake oil salesmen, and I would bet you a Benny he doesn’t even believe the tripe he’s selling you.

              But, I will agree with you on one point, and that is using the Holocaust and being a victim to Fascism is lame excuse to inflict Fascism on others.

              The Zionist Movement and the Holocaust Denial Movement, and other Fascist based movements have been a slap in the face in the efforts for an international human rights standard.

              Yes, it happened, it was horrific, but this means we need an International effort to prevent mass genocide from ever happening again.

              Not continued Fascism, oppression and divisions.

              The racism, the blame, the denial games are failing our future to what it could and should be.

              A man like Irving is a parasite who feeds on the dark side of humanity, like a vampire.

              How is his bullcrap going to improve our society?
              By reinforcing anti-semites with pseudo intellectual babble?
              This is the key to a world of peace?

            • ladylibertyslamp

              Submitted on 2009/11/16 at 12:30pm
              I am beginning to think you WN’s like hanging out with us Anti’s more than you do on Stormfront.

              Okay, I’ll bite…

              The Holocaust Denial movement is a facade to promote the Third Positionist movement, if you don’t know what that is you can use the search engine of your choice and get the details.

              This basin of Academia you believe he and others like him are a part of, does not exist among the credible.
              Irving is a joke, a snake oil salesmen, and I would bet you a Benny he doesn’t even believe the tripe he’s selling you.

              But, I will agree with you on one point, and that is using the Holocaust and being a victim to Fascism is lame excuse to inflict Fascism on others.

              The Zionist Movement and the Holocaust Denial Movement, and other Fascist based movements have been a slap in the face in the efforts for an international human rights standard.

              Yes, it happened, it was horrific, but this means we need an International effort to prevent mass genocide from ever happening again.

              Not continued Fascism, oppression and divisions.

              The racism, the blame, the denial games are failing our future to what it could and should be.

              A man like Irving is a parasite who feeds on the dark side of humanity, like a vampire.

              How is his bullcrap going to improve our society?
              By reinforcing anti-semites with pseudo intellectual babble?
              This is the key to a world of peace?

            • Anonymous

              Dear god, you’ve got more things wrong with your logic than an Edsel did with its manufacturing.
              -Irving never put his denialism in such meek, genteel terms.
              -Irving *was* a respected historian. WAS. When you engage in something that’s so ridiculously antithetical to the profession you’re supposedly respected for, you cease being any sort of authority in that profession.
              -Who said he was a brilliant con man? The fact that he’s getting called out on his BS proves that he’s a rotten con-man.
              -Auschwitz II (Birkenau) was the extermination camp. Auschwitz I and III (Monowitz) were labor camps, so yes, there were hospitals.
              -Yes, like any tragedy, distasteful and authoritarian elements exploit the Holocaust for their narrow goals at the expense of everyone else; that doesn’t mean the Holocaust never happened, nor does it diminish the severity or importance of the Holocaust. Ahmadinejad, white nationalists and nazis exploit the Holocaust in the exact same manner Israel exploits it– to justify totalitarian nationalist fantasies. The result is just the same– whether you’re using the Holocaust as an excuse to blow up Palestinian homes or as an excuse to want all Jews dead, you’re still a creature that subsists off of other people’s pain and suffering.

              tl;dr: The Holocaust happened. Denying that and/or profiting off of it makes you a monster.

              • Veritatis

                Irving is not being “called out” he is being intimidated by thugs who hide behind masks. Big difference.

                • ladylibertyslamp

                  The “thugs” in masks are only a small part of the opposition against Irving.
                  He is being called out by actual historians and by those who have lived through what he is marketing for $ as a lie.

                  Holocaust Denial is nothing more than coining in on hate.

                  • Veritatis

                    Then I suggest you get your thugs under control and let law abiding historians debate Irving. The very fact that you attempt to silence Irving with masked thugs gives a ring of truth to what he says.

                    The fact that the law abiding historians are law abiding diminish their credibility in my eyes. If evidence comes to light that counters the Holocaust orthodoxy, they dare now publish it for fear of prosecution. It is illegal in many countries to publish any heresy to the Holocausts orthodoxy.

                    • ladylibertyslamp

                      So, we have “thugs” now? We’re just a collective of journalists and bloggers, and not even within 100 miles of what happened.

                      We aren’t organizers or hackers, we report, period.

                      You have no idea who or what you are looking at, associating with, and talking to in either direction.

                      You are so busy taking stabs in the dark to throw some kind of civilized blanket on your bigotry you can’t see the forest through the trees.

                      Fact is, when you mess around with Nazis you are swimming in a cesspool.

                      Heck, we all need showers after just reporting on you people cuz all the fake academia creds in the world can’t make a Nazi not stink like a Nazi.

    • The Ghost

      As evidenced by the fact that no one but the losers in your own pathetic and diminishing-by-the-second circles support you, we already know the answer to your question, now don’t we?

      Remember: We knew you were going to get another location. Our goal was to be there when you do. We want to know who you are. THAT’S the objective!

  3. Veritatis

    No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the world was flat. There must be some truth in what David Irving is saying or people without masks would openly debate his conclusions. The organized opposition to David Irving seems to rely on the intimidation of masked thugs rather then intellectual discourse.

    • Veritatis writes:
      No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the world was flat…

      No one was ever fired for buying Microsoft, either, but that doesn’t make it any less stupid an idea.