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Kyle Rogers of the Council of Conservative Citizens is now a Virginia Flagger Fan!

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The Virginia Flaggers are a Confederate Heritage group, sometimes referred to as “Neo-Confederates”, who are based in Sandston, Virginia. The group was started in 2011,  their current leader is a woman named Susan Frise Hathaway who is constantly repeating their innocuous motto “Return the Flags – Restore the Honor.” Benign as the group may seem, it appears there is more to the group than meets the eye.

The Virginia Flaggers have had past associations with white supremacists during their activities as well known WN activist Matthew Heimbach was often seen in connection with the group. VA Flagger member Tripp Lewis had described Heimbach as a “good guy” even after Heimbach’s nefarious activities became more obvious.
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In the early stages of the VA flagger group, Ms. Hathaway was also interviewed and promoted on a podcast with the white supremacist southern nationalist group League of the South.

It could be argued that their past associations to Heimbach and the League of the South are trivial and spotty at best, but now another white nationalist has stepped up to publicly praise and promote the VA Flaggers and their activities.

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The Council of Conservative Citizens is listed as a White Nationalist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and is a reincarnation of the White Citizens Councils. CofCC’s website and blog is administered by Kyle Rogers, a fairly well seasoned white nationalist activist who has been on the scene for a number of years now. Kyle very rarely makes a public appearance but when he does it certainly makes an impression (lol!)

Kyle, out of the blue, has decided that now the C of CC has a keen interest in the VA Flagger as he is now promoting their up coming “Lee-Jackson Day” event in January on the C of CC website called TopConservativeNews.com

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This promotional article is also plugged  on hate forum Stormfront by a user named “UlsterScot12,” believed to be the alias of Kyle Rogers.

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Another posting was discovered on the White News Now forum under the category “Council of Conservative Citizens”.

Why would Kyle and the C of CC all of a sudden take an interest in a group that claims they are not racists or white nationalists– like the agenda of the C of CC and Kyle himself?

One plausible reason is centered around Kyle’s side business, which is an internet flag shop called “Patriot Flags.” There, Kyle takes freedom of speech down to the level of selling a variety of flags, many with a white nationalist or Nazi based theme. And if you take a second look at the C of CC Flagger article …

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In the world of capitalism it would make sense that Kyle smells cash in the blood of these confederate flag worshippers. He has a strong connection to League of the South and makes a profit by being the providing source for their big black X flags, glee club polo shirts and most likely the printed signs for their meager protests.

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Are the VA Flaggers perhaps a potential business prospect? Or maybe the business relationship has already been on going? Either way– flaggers need flags, Kyle sells flags and he sells the kinds of flags they are looking for and they already have mutual friends in the League of the South.

 

The Actual Event:

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The event in question that the Virginia Flaggers are planning is on Friday, January 16, 2015 and Saturday, January 17, 2015, in Lexington, Virginia for the Lee-Jackson Holiday.

According to their Facebook Event page :

For the third year, the Va Flaggers will gather in Lexington for the Lee-Jackson holiday. Friday, January 16th is the Virginia State Holiday for Lee-Jackson Day, and Saturday, January 17th is officially recognized as Lee-Jackson Day in Lexington. The Virginia Flaggers will flag the town of Lexington for action taken by City Council to ban ALL flags from city light pole flag stands, rather than allow the flags of Lee and Jackson to fly for the week leading up to the State holiday, AND Washington and Lee University for actions taken by President Ruscio to desecrate the LEE Chapel by removing battle flags from the Lee Mausoleum in response to the demands of 6 agitators/students.
Join us, as we “take it to the streets” to let the folks in Lexington and Washington & Lee University know that there are still many of us who honor Lee and Jackson and will not go away quietly.
We will flag all day Friday, participate in memorial services and the parade on Saturday, and flag Saturday afternoon/evening. We welcome all those interested in standing with us to attend Friday, Saturday, or both days.
Meet at Stonewall Jackson Cemetery Friday at 10:00 a.m, Saturday at 9:00 a.m. for instructions and information.
Lodging information here… http://leejacksonday.webs.com/lodgingsponsors.htm

Yeah, well LOL, so much flag drama and so little time. The most humorous part of the picture is this Va Flagger call for a TOTAL BOYCOTT of Lexington, Va and ask that participants take great effort and not spend ANY MONEY inside the city limits. The recommend lodging is outside of the town, and the Stonewall Brigade has negotiated discounted pricing. This boycott has apparently been ongoing since 2011.

Has this boycott had any effect on the businesses of Lexington?

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There has been considerable doubt expressed as to the effectiveness of the boycott. According to data contained in a post at the Civil War blog Dead Confederates, the boycott has thus far been wholly ineffective and has made no measurable difference on the economy of the city of Lexington. An informal poll conducted by telephone to no less than 20 local businesses in Lexington, between Friday, December 19, 2014, and Sunday, December 21, 2014, also show that the boycott has had no negative effect on the economy of the city of Lexington. One hotel manager in Lexington said that he “Had no idea what we were talking about”, while the manager of a well known chain restaurant in town commented that they, “Didn’t know there was a boycott”. We did not receive a single positive response from any of the merchants in Lexington, Virginia indicating that they had lost revenue due to the effects of the boycott, with most commenting that they had never even heard of the boycott prior to our inquiry.

Who is going to this event?

Well we have spotted at least four known League of the South members Dennis Durham, Shane Long, Josh Newcomb and Jamie Farren who have pledged to attend the event.

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Note: We must stress that we have no grounds to assume that the Flaggers are directly responsible for the Council of Conservative Citizens’ promotion of this event or the League of the South members joining in on the event, so we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt– but it’s certainly suspicious that a group that has had nothing to do with the Flaggers is now bending over backwards to promote them.

It is unclear if the Virginia Flaggers will distance themselves from the Council of Conservative Citizens and the League of the South by simply denouncing the groups promoting them with the possible prospect of business profits or the League of the South who see this as a venue to recruit and hand out their steel magnolia fanzine.

Time will tell…

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Fredericksburg Hit with Confederate Rag

The flaggers are being coy with the placement of their new flag, which they privately erected next to the northbound lanes of I-95. They didn’t give the location of the flag because it’s on private property, but they did supply this photograph to the local CBS affiliate, with the hint that it was north of Fredericksburg, VA.

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Wow, shooting the road signs from the back is a sure way to obscure the true location of it, right? Not in the internet age, it ain’t.

Well, I had five minutes to kill, so I loaded up Google Maps and took a little stroll up I-95, looking for some signage that resembled what was depicted in the photograph. Sure enough, I found this site, which looked promising.

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Let’s take a closer look. Hmm. There’s an overpass here, where the photo was probably taken.

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Truslow Road, eh? The property the flag is on doesn’t appear to be Truslow, it’s on this cross street. Beagle Road? What’s down here? It’s probably not the first lot, but what’s going on in the second lot?

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Hmm, 8 Beagle Road. That flag looks a little funny. We need to go deeper!

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Well, that seals it. And the image is from 2012, so this isn’t someone who was duped by the flaggers into flying their flag. But who lives here, anyway? Let’s ask the public records.

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Hubert Wayne Cash, huh? You mean this Hubert Wayne Cash, who professes to be a member of the Sons Of Confederate Veterans?

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Whose picture is that in the lower right? Why, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Grand Wizard of the KKK and commander of the Fort Pillow Massacre, of course!

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And who are the Sons Of Confederate Veterans, anyway? Rare among contemporary racist organizations, they keep up a decent facade of the “heritage not hate” line, but their membership roster and leadership reads like a who’s-who of the leadership of explicit hate groups like the League Of The South and Council of Conservative Citizens and they decisively expelled any moderate, non-political members in the early 2000s. Now, the Sons Of Confederate Veteran name is poison even to Civil War Reenactors.

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Gone with the Flag

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How sad and pathetic…

( for more images, please visit the blogs Blood of my Kindred and Dead Confederates. <— Dead Confederate blog is  kind of “douche baggy” but the photos are they got are good, they are not blog roll worthy )

Those of you who are new to our blog will be interested to know that we’ve been keeping track of a group from Virginia calling themselves “The Virginia Flaggers.” Their premise is simple, if not typically pompous for the romantic fantasy of the old south: “honor history” by restoring the confederate flag to prominence in the capital of the old confederacy by flying it in public. Thus far, their actions consist of a handful of participants waving confederate flags in front of libraries, museums and public buildings, and their greatest successes consist of being a nuisance to drivers and pedestrians.

Their latest scheme to annoy as many drivers as possible is to erect a fifty-foot tall flagpole “somewhere” along the I-95 approach to southern Richmond. That “somewhere” has finally been revealed to be 2501 Old Bermuda Hundred Road, owned by James D and Barbara B Eaton(registration is required, but free). James D and Barbara B Eaton run Eaton Landscaping and Lawn Care, and they are in all probability nothing more than patsies set up by the flaggers. Let’s take the time to point out just how incredibly silly it is to hide the location of a FIFTY FOOT TALL FLAG POLE, because once the flag goes up, everyone’s going to know exactly where it is, and property records are freely available to the public. The worn-out “heritage not hate” argument has already been thoroughly dissolved by us and others. We’ve documented their embrace of openly racist hate groups and individuals and the blog Civil War Crossroads has demolished their weak academic posturing; you can find out more at the links provided.

Today is the day that the flag was to be unfurled. We were seriously contemplating whether this would even happen at all, given the recent internal strife that saw their head drop everything and put as much distance between her and the group as possible. We’ve speculated that the flag wouldn’t be going up at all, and as proof that we shouldn’t be playing the lottery, it went up.

We were taking bets on what the final disposition of this saga would be:

mean people on the internet made us feel bad so we chickened out at the last minute

communist liberals made reams of undocumented, unverifiable death threats against us that we never bothered to report to the police, so we’re attempting to save face by defending it with video cameras and tazers

Lurching and squeaking like a broken toy, the flaggers managed to unfurl a historically inaccurate, fifteen-by-fifteen sheet of made-in-china nylon along the southern approach to Richmond along I-95. It’s mostly hidden behind a line of trees, visible only from directly across the highway.

Considering the amount of difficulty encountered by simply attempting to erect a flagpole, this will probably be the beginning of the end of the Virginia Flaggers. We suspect it won’t be long before some other idiotic ideologue tries to emulate their confederate forebears and chase after a lost cause.

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Is the Virginia Confederate Flag Situation on Interstate 95 a Hoax?

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A Neo-Confederate fetish group called the Virginia Flaggers have been generating reams of cringe-worthy drama over the past few weeks, claiming that their entire world will crumble into the sea if they can’t raise a sheet of nylon imprinted with the confederate naval jack along the interstate leading to Richmond, Virginia.

This group is a small gaggle of loons; some are from Virginia, many are not. None of them seem to care about how offensive this action is to the most of the population nor the fact that there are white supremacists like Matthew Heimbach among them.

We could start pointing fingers and naming names of some of the more moronic individuals in the group, like some mentally unbalanced trash novelist out of Pensacola FL, but demented histrionics– however embarassingly funny– are not article worthy.

The rumor is that their media-hound “leader” Susan Hathaway has stepped away from the group, and it is spinning out of control in the untrained hands of those who lack the social skills or emotional stability to know how to maintain the tattered remnants of the group’s positive media image.

It’s fifteen days until the unfurling of the gigantic sheet of Chinese nylon, and we’re scratching our heads. You see, it takes twenty eight days for concrete to fully set and cure, and to properly erect a tall flagpole and not hilariously topple over in a slight breeze, it should probably be up by now. At the very least, some manner of construction should be under way. But there isn’t anything of the sort happening anywhere inside the Bermuda Hundred Campaign area along interstate 95– no new flagpoles, no clearing of land, no tree-clearing operations to improve sight-lines… nothing!

So, if we eliminate the possibility that this goofy bag of nuts are putting up a structurally unsound flagpole, the only other scenario is that the whole saga is one massive hoax.

For what purpose? Well, there’s the matter of the three thousand plus dollars that was raised for “security fencing, lighting and a camera.” It’s as easy as a few mouse clicks to claim a bunch of mean people on the internet forced you to abandon your plans and that pile of cash suddenly just fades into the shadows. There’s also the old Richard Viguirie direct mail tactic to consider– yes, all of those well-wishers are now components of a dollar-a-name list that can be readily sold to any political campaign with the money.

But let’s dig into this a little further. The brilliant civil war historian Dr. Brooks Simpson has suggested two possibilities for the locations of the flag. Both are within the Bermuda Hundred Campaign area and both properties abut interstate 95.

Site #1:

The back yard is easy to see from the highway, but the house itself is down a long, private driveway. The owners of this property are in the remodeling and contracting business, which makes sense from a logistical standpoint– they might be people who had some business dealings with Susan Hathway, for example. Of course, Susan Hathaway dropped everything and ran as far from the flaggers as is possible, so this might have put a crimp in that plan– if there ever was one. But to publicly associate with a widely reviled hate group –a toothless joke of a hate group, even– is commercial suicide. Couple that with no visible work being done at the site and this scores low for probability.

Site #2:

Again, the back yard is nestled right against the highway, with a thin line of trees acting as a barrier between the property and the road. The houses here are close to their streets, so it’s very easy to see if any work is going on. Once again, no work is happening. There aren’t any traces of any heavy equipment, no recent tree work nor poured cement. Probability is low here too.

Both locations are demographically multi-ethnic working class, and it seems the height of folly (and bad southrin‘ manners!) to personally insult every single neighbor on your block for the sake of an offensive sheet of nylon.

So we have to wonder if the flag is going up at all– or if it’s not going up as advertised. Time will tell where the real location is, and with it the thundering deluge of inquisitive reporters who want to know exactly what possesses people to want to be forever tarnished with the symbol of slavery.

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